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When I bought my '05 Escape, my first trip for wax and other stuff also got me thinking about brighter bulbs all around. Since most people behind me seem to be really busy texting, reading, writing, yapping on the phone, drinking, eating, shaving, changing clothes, changing CDs, or hitting the kids, I thought that brighter bulbs might actually make them notice that there might be someone in front of them.

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2001-2007 Escape, 2001-2004 Tribute, 2005-2007 Mariner
* Rear stop/tail lamps: replace stock #3157 or #4157 bulbs (32/3CP) with #3457 bulbs (40/3CP).
* Rear signal and reverse lamps: replace stock #3156 bulbs (32CP) with #3456 bulbs (40CP).
* Front signal/parking lamps: replace stock #3157NA or #4157NA bulbs (32/3CP) with #3457NA bulbs (40/3CP).

2005-2007 Tribute
* There's not much you can change on the outside, since these Tributes used Japanese-spec bulbs with no brighter options.

2008 Escape, Mariner, Tribute
* Rear stop/turn/tail lamps: replace stock #3157 or #4157 bulbs (32/3CP) with #3457 bulbs (40/3CP).
* Front signal/parking lamps: replace stock #3157NA or #4157NA bulbs (32/3CP) with #3457NA bulbs (40/3CP).
(Some of the 2008 models may already have #3457NA lamps in front. Check before you buy new ones.)
* Reverse: there's not much you can do to upgrade these #921 (21CP) lamps, unfortunately.

Inside, the 2001-2007 Escapes, Mariners, and Tributes use #37 or #74 bulbs in the instrument cluster and some of the other controls (I think the climate control panel used them as well). They're rated at around 0.5CP. Replace them with #24 bulbs (2CP), but make sure they fit the sockets. While #24 bulbs are supposed to have the same wedge base, indifferent quality control by some manufacturers might make them difficult to fit or stay seated. You can also replace them with #37/#74 LED lamps. Most of the power window controls use LEDs.

2008 Escapes, Mariners, and Tributes use LEDs in all of the interior controls, except for the shifter.
 

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Sweet, thanks!

For the 3456 bulbs, what if I took a 3457 bulb and bent the connectors so that both filaments came on at once? Would that be noticeably brighter, too bright, or just kill the bulb?
 

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You could do that. It won't kill the bulb at all. It would add .59A to the 2.23A load for each bulb, though, and (theoretically) give you an extra 3CP. That's actually a lot of current for only 3CP (43 versus 40), if that, so I wouldn't do it myself.

GM always uses 3157/3457 bulbs, even in single-filament applications, probably as some kind of a fail-safe intention. I don't remember what the Ford single-filament sockets look like off-hand, though...I don't remember if they actually make contact with the dimmer filament contacts.
 

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The Ford 3x56 sockets do not make contact with the dimmer filament, at least in the Escort. I replaced the 3156 backup bulbs with 3457 bulbs using both filaments, and they are noticeably brighter (they actually light up the road now). I forgot to compare the two without the dual filament, so I can't say if the difference is due to both filaments being on, or just the switch from 31xx to 34xx. :doh:

I also replaced the front side marker bulbs (194) with bigger 922 bulbs. Think I will have any heat issues with that?
 

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Yeah, the 922 bulbs will probably melt the housings!

194 bulbs (2CP) can be replaced with 168 (3CP) or 2825/W5W (4CP) without melting anything.
 

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:fan: Whoops.

Is there somewhere where I can look up the light output of different bulbs? (And the socket types, too)

And even better would be some sort of reference for me to figure out what clearance would be needed for a certain heat output. Those 194 bulbs looked tiny in the housing, which is more like a parking lamp housing but it's listed as side marker lamps.
 

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Lemme see if I can find a link to Sylvania's automotive lamp catalog. It's the bible.

And if that housing is that large, maybe the 922 bulbs will be OK. Run 'em for a while and keep checking the housing and socket.
 

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Gotcha...how far is the bulb from the lens at its closest point? If it's less than 1/2", it might deform the reflector.
 

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WOW, thanks! All of those are going on my portable hard drive with the service manuals. :woohoo:

I will have to double check the clearance, but when I was removing the old bulb it seemed like there was about an inch between the bulb and the outside reflector housing; not sure about the inside plastic part.
 

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:D

Yeah, that's been a handy catalog for sure.

And if the bulb is really that far away, you're probably OK with it. But I'd still check the socket after a few hours of on-time.
 

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......... Two questions, 1. What about the third brake light bulb??? 2. How do you get to the :censor: taillight bulbs....
 

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PollKat said:
......... Two questions, 1. What about the third brake light bulb??? 2. How do you get to the :censor: taillight bulbs....
:topic: isn't the subject "brighter" bulbs?
 

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:topic: isn't the subject "brighter" bulbs?

I'll rephrase it then. 1. Is there a brighter bulb, for the third brake light???? 2. (disregard) Found answer elsewhere. :)^
 

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I was just going to answer this, too!

The five W5W/2825 bulbs are the brightest bulbs that will fit without melting anything. There are 194/168 LED retrofit "bulbs" that may be brighter, but you have to try them first---some of them don't direct any light toward the reflector inside the housing.
 

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Check the Edge site soon.

I also found out that the Vista Roof switch (which has five buttons) has the same dim green LEDs inside it, but they're only lighted on the MKX (???). They're now blue LEDs (and lighted) on my Edge. They're lighted by the Accessory Delay feed (like the window switches) and not the instrument panel feed (as they are on the MKX).



 

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Sorry to hijack your post, but on the subject of brighter bulbs. I see lots of posts for adding ballasts and such for brighter head lights and brighter fog lights. Are there any, just plug them in brighter bulbs for the head lights and fog lights??
Its for a 2003 Escape.

Thanks for the helping a newbie!
 

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Hello MadMax. Long time no see and welcome back. My parking globe has been erratic. The service tech fitted a different globe. It has lasted a few evenings without blowing.
 
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