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I wrote the MSDS guys about headers and they said they offer headers for all V6 ESCAPES and I quote,

"The fit is for all V6 Escapes...only the 2WD, all years.
Thx.
Tech/msdsinc."


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http://www.msdsinc.com/

Thought I would put that out there. Unfortunetly I have AWD and apparently it wont work.
 

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Alternatives..
http://www.stainlessheaders.com/customheaders =$$$$$$$
Handy with a mig? Some places offer weld your own "kits" that are superior to off the shelf, especially if you research hp, head flows, primary tube lengths.
cantankerous guy, but : http://www.headersbyed.com/index.htm
I've paid more than I liked to build a semi custom ceramic coated on another project, but the fit was perfect, starter, filters, fasteners accessible.
On most vehicles, headers are not really worth the expenditure for the few if any hp they add, but as part of a matched set of components, more flow in, then you need out, it becomes a necessity.
 

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yarritspete said:
i talked to msds awhile back and they said they gained 12 hp to the wheels with there headers
$726 for 12 hp, $60.50 for 1 hp... is pathetic. I'm skeptical of all "dyno" tests as they all can be optimized with the operator, vary greatly by type of dyno, and aren't really testing in the real world with closed hood, hot engine temps, rolling and wind resistance.
Really not trying to be an @$$, just a realist. 12 hp can easily be just an error factor. Peak hp is but one point on the hp curve. 12 hp would account for an Escape going from 83.67 mph in the 1/4 to 85.8... barely 2 mph, again not worth 700 + $.
Combine it with a cam, intake, and new tune, then maybe it would help.
 

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BLKXLT said:
yarritspete said:
i talked to msds awhile back and they said they gained 12 hp to the wheels with there headers
Combine it with a cam, intake, and new tune, then maybe it would help.
How bout catback exhaust and a free flow cat??? Where would we find a free flow for a ESCAPE?
What about air capacity coming in? bigger/ better manifold?

I was looking at those HEADER SHOP websites and I know already those custom made headers will cost a pretty penny :doh:

BLKXLT how muxh did you pay for them and what vehicle did you buy them for???
 

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I didn't use the sites listed above and I'm probably making perfomance comparisons of cherries to pumpkins as my real addiction is a solid roller, forged stroker, 383 small block in an old Datsun.
I get shocked by the price of bolt ons that cost hundreds and only add a handfull of ponies.
Lots of hits when I google catbacks for Escapes.
Jeff M said:
I'm almost certain the Magnaflow exits just like the stock system, although for $539, I would just have one custom made at a shop. It'll be cheaper.
I used http://www.rewarderheaders.com/ ceramic coated 1 3/4". He worked well with me and after supplying him with an outline, head gaskets, made a rough mock up with some extra bends, turnouts, which I cut and welded further, He then finished them up and ceramic coated.
Really heavy duty 3/8" flanges.
As far as cost, that and most of my other perfomance receipts are no where to be found.
The new 3.0 makes 240 hp, 80 hp/litre, pretty amazing numbers. Its already "hot rodded" to some extent. I'd love to see someone get 100/litre from the Duratec.
 
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