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So yes after getting the amp, sub and speakers installed I think I want to install a new HU. I love the way the system sounds but I have some $$ that I can use now and I want to put in something. My hold up previously was that I didn't want to lose stering wheel controls and I didn't want to lose Sync. I did some research and came up with a few connections that will allow me to keep those and add some better sound quality with a powerful, tunable HU.

Currently looking at the Pioneer AVH-P3100DVD. I took a ride to the sound place today to have a look. I realy like the face, the left handed controls and the USB/Aux right on the front of the unit. It has all of the requirements I am looking for - BT, USB, Sirius compatable. I had the sound place work up a price for everything I would need to retain steering controls and Sync. Then I went home to search for the best prices. Here is what they put together:

AVH-P3100DVD: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17373_Pioneer+AVH-P3100DVD.html
PAC SWI-PS:http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_5319_PAC+SWI-PS.html
SC-CI: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_10102_SIRIUS+SC-C1+SiriusConnect-+Universal+Vehicle+Tuner.html
AFSI-01: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_14328_Axxess+AFSI-01.html
CD-SP10: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11197_Pioneer+CD-SB10.html
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So basically from what I can gather, all of these harnesses and pieces will allow me to keep the steering wheel functions, Sirius and Sync. It seems like a LOT of stuff to add to keep all of that. I don't know how or where it would all go together. I assume some of it can be tucked under the center console or in the center stack. I need to read further to see if that is the best route and how to tackle that.

If anyone has any info on something similar please post up.
 

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Sync is out, but those functions are covered anyway by the new unit. just a matter of being able to map the phone and media steering wheel buttons to interface the new unit in addition to the basic volume/channel functions.
 

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I am still debating on keeping the Sync. I don't even know where the module is. I thought it was in the center console but it may have been relocated to part of the HU now. I really want the steering wheel controls and Sirius. The new HU can run the BT and USB so really Sync is not too big of a deal. I use it once in a while but I find myself just pressing the buttons on the phone then putting it down to talk.

I have in my head how everything in theory should go. For the Sirius run the satellite antennae into the SC-CI, then into the CD-SP10 then into the HU. For the rest, the plugs would go from factory plug to the AFSI - then some wires of that into the PAC-SWI and some go to the HU. Then run rear speakers through the factory hookups and run RCA from the HU to the amp for the fronts/sub. Then the rest is the same. I can remove the LC6i and input RCA and remote directly from the HU.

The issue is how everything plugs in for the AFSI and the PAC-SWI interface to the HU. More reading definitely.
 

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Did some research last night and got all of the equipment install instructions. Seems pretty straight forward. The only thing I don't know about is the BT part of Sync. I don't know if keeping Sync also keeps the BT part of that. If not then I need to get the CD-BTB200 adaptor for the HU to work the BT. But there is only one bus plug in the back of the receiver so I don't know how 2 adaptors with an IP-bus plug can work. Need to call Pioneer and find out. I want to keep both Sirius and BlueTooth. The rest of the harnesses seem easy. Just need to plug everything from the harness to the receiver except the wheel controls. Those go the the adaptor then to the HU.

Still researching everything but I noticed that the adaptor for the Sirius and the BT have a IP-Bus in and out. Maybe you plug one into the other then the second one goes to the HU.
 

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Here is the latest I am thinking of:

Pioneer AVH-P3200BT:http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_22417_Pioneer+AVH-P3200BT.html
Pioneer CD-SB10:http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11197_Pioneer+CD-SB10.html
SIRIUS SC-C1: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_10102_SIRIUS+SC-C1+SiriusConnect-+Universal+Vehicle+Tuner.html
PAC SWI-PSv1:http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_18027_PAC+SWI-PSv1+-New+Version+of+SWI-PS-.html
Axxess AFSI-01:http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_14328_Axxess+AFSI-01.html
Metra Dash Kit:http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_19868_Metra+99-5814S+-Silver-.html

According to what I have read, all of the Sync functions should carry through. I am not sure what wires would need to go to the steering control adaptor. It looks like a few of them do. The rest of the wires out of the harness match up to everything in the HU I believe. Not sure about the BT piece of the Sync and if the mirror microphone would be kept through Sync or lost. Either way the HU has BT. Even if some of the Sync functions are lost, Sirius, USB and BT covers my needs. The he good thing is the Sirius adaptor is wired to direct 12v so the LOC power will be pulled from the rear and re-routed to the dash.

More reading.... This is fun as hell. I have an adiction.
 

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Well I went ahead and purchased the items in my last post. Apparently I will be one of the first to get the new Pioneer model AVH-P3200BT. Basically the differences are the HU has built-in BT as opposed to a seperate adaptor you have to wire in. And the total was less than the other receiver and BT adaptor.

I am not positive what will/will not work as far as Sync is concerned. I don't know if my 2010 has Sync in the HU or in the center console (next to the shifter). I have read that they may have moved the Sync module into the HU for 2010 but can't confirm. The harness says it will retain the Sync functions but if the module is in the HU then it obviously won't. But I really care about the steering wheel controls, BT and USB for music. All of that I will have one way or the other with the new HU so I am happy. Even if Sync doesn't work I have easy plug-play connections and I don't have to splice too much.

From what Pioneer tells me the Sirius adaptor plugs directly to constant 12v and has a "remote on" through the bus wire connection. So my lead from the current LOC will be re-routed to under the dash for that. Then the HU will power the rear speakers through the factory wiring and the fronts/sub will have RCA leads from the HU to the amp and then through the current set-up. Basically need to run 2 x RCA lines and a remote out from the HU to replace the LC6i.

Still unsure if the direction (compass) and the temperature guages will still work in the top screen. I know the radio info will be gone but I hope the compass and temperature features still work.
 

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I cant believe that pioneer requires an interface box for the the sirius dc box. I just had to buy a $15 adapter for my kenwood.

I'm about to install my Kenwood DNX8120 into my escape and i was wondering the same thing. Am I going to retain the compass and temperature or will they be gone. At least the parts will be here tuesday and I will know soon enough.
 

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I PM'd Strejck and he answered back that the compass and temperature functions still remain on the display, which is great. Pioneer units all have the easy plug-n-play bus adaptors for the accessories. That is just the way it is I guess. I at least wanted to cut down on the BT adaptor and get a HU with it built in. One less thing to connect. But the HU is also navigation ready in the future if I want to add it on.
 
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