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On the top of the 09's engine there is a big black plastic peice, that's the intake. Between the the front of the hood tip and the upper grill peice, is the actual air inlet.
Yeah, I see. But the "problem" in my view, is that there is weather stripping all around the intake inlet... and then the hood sits right down on top of that. I really don't see how the air intake gets any air at all. It's closed off. I wonder if anyone has taken that hose away from the metal it's attached to and moved it down so that air flowing through the grill will flow into it. OR... if something else has been done to increase air flow. The design seems to suit being changed easily... I am just not all that mechanically inclined. :play:

Here are images of what I'm referring to:




 

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I see what your saying Charlie. I could have sworn there was a small gap on both sides of the stripping. So its not getting air directly from the front but the sides. If not, then it is definetly getting it from the engine bay and radiator area. FYR dont think there was a mid year change. But there is a difference in the 08 and 09 air intakes as you see charlies and you see the pic in this link http://www.escape-city.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5207 you see the after market intake, but just imagine an airfilter box sitting next to the battery (where the new filter is )
 

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Is there a difference in the 08 and 09 air boxes? It looks like the intake turns more towards the grill in the 09's compaired to the 08's or was there a mid year change of the air boxes.
The 2008 runs the older 3.0L engine, so I'm going to guess that the air intake is different.

Also, to help with the 2009+ V6 argument, I didn't notice it when I bought the car but the rubber tubing had fallen off the box-side... and I got 1MPG better on the highway before I reattached the tubing. My guess is that it picks up the air that runs between the grille and the hood (because you can fit a finger in there). An easy mod would be to cut a hole on the grille to accomdate for more air (and maybe some custom work to get additional air from the front, as a faux ram air intake). I'm going to do more work on this when I finish school.
 

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Are you running synthetic engine oil in your truck? That, combined with the intake should make for even better MPG's if you haven't done it already. I noticed a difference in my Escape with the 5W20 Full Synthetic engine oil and the K&N panel filter on my truck. I've been entertaining the idea of putting in an intake on my truck, as I had a full length CAI on my Focus I had before.

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CharlieJ said:
oskerb said:
Finally took her on the highway, 21 mpg on a 51 mile trip. I'm gonna go on another highway trip probably next weekend to confirm. Still getting 17.6 to 18.6 in city and at one point got to 19 mpg
I guess I'm missing something here... because I've run three tanks of gas thru my '09 V6 Escape (purchased pre-owned on 4/09/10) and I'm averaging 24.02 MPG now -- with just a new K&N filter installed in the stock box.

BTW, not trying to hijack this thread, but would the Weapon-R CAIs work on a 2009 Escape? I have seen lots of mentions of 2008's, but have not seen any air intake mods for a 2009 V6.
Okay something is not adding up. I am getting 21 to 22 mpg with a stock air box with the tube removed. This is all city miles or stop and go. on long trips I have averaged 25 to 26. That just under 400 miles I have traveled. I am going to do my own expermenting in the next few weeks. Let you guys know what I come up with.

But on a nother note everone is right the cooler the air the better it works. Worm air = a loss in power and cool air = a gain in power. no matter how you find it or can get it.
awd or fwd? because fwd's should get much better mileage. my dad has a 05 escape v6 awd and gets 17-18 city 21 hwy. my 05 2.3l gets like 19 city 24 hwy if I'm driving conservative. been thinking of getting the weapon r for the 2.3l
 

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i have 2 airfilters, k&N AND A GREEN USA FILTER , i get better performance from the green filter.
 

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I will let you know as soon as I get mine Wednesday. I got one with GAS SAVER, LOW OCTANE PERFORMANCE, AND HIGH OCTANE PERFORMANCE.
 

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I will let you know as soon as I get mine Wednesday. I got one with GAS SAVER, LOW OCTANE PERFORMANCE, AND HIGH OCTANE PERFORMANCE.
Oh nice. I was just about to order both a weapon r and xcal3. Just didnt know if the weapon r would be worth the extra money if it didnt add any mpg's beyond the xcal3 got. I mean I'm thinking it should do maybe 1-2 more...maybe, since it will breathe easier.

Have you ever edited or changed any settings in your tunes? shift points, shift harshness, spark etc?
 

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No I havntNo I havnt, I dint have it yet. You can make your own intake for cheaper, look In the earlier pages and I mention how.
 

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having a 2.3l its...kind of tight space. The 1 piece welded design of the weapon r flows much better than a pieced together kit I would make on my own. I have a k&n drop in, maybe just that with the xcal would be fine. Update us how your mileage is.
 

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Right now I'm getting 18-19.5 city and 21-22.5( almost for It to 23 one time) but those numbers could be better if I drove more conservative. Let's just say I'm always in the fast lane.
 

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Now I have been pricing out a "build it yourself" intakes system for some time and at first came to be like $60 short of buying the WEAPON-R. Now that I have the intake I think I could have gone a little cheaper on the "build it yourself" intake. All that is needed is:

- 2x 90 degree elbows ($20 each)
- 3x couplers (1x 2.5" to 3" coupler 2x 3' to 3" coupler) ($10 each)
-1x air intake filter ($30)
-1x MAF adapter part #9705 SPECTRE ($40) (see spectre website http://www.spectreperformance.com/#CATALOG.9705)

Now these prices are approximate and you could probably find this for a little cheaper depending on your ebay habits.
Im a little confused about this parts list, the MAF adapter you suggested is on a 4" pipe and the rest is 3"? Also would I need to get the vacuum sensor adaptor as well? They have the other pipes like you said but I do they come with connectors or are they fitted so that one end has the connector built in? From their site I cant tell and Im an automotive novice so I dont honestly know what Im looking at here.
 

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Nice install OskerB!

Looks like the Weapon R Secret Weapon with their Ram Air attachment and a sealed custom divider between the engine compartment and the air filter/battery area is what is in order for the little '02 2.0L Zetec/5-speed.

Still investigating how many Focus parts will fit... (FORD Racing plug wires, under-drive pulleys, header maybe?)

Exhaust will be Random Technology cat with the highest flow/loudest muffler my girlfriend can stand in full-2.25" or 2.5" pipe.

Who has the best performance/economy module for these cars?
What is making power for you 4-cyl guys without making it an absolute dog off the line?

As you might figure from my screen name, it's my Girlfriend's Escape. We want to perk it up for her as she has to put off getting a new Golf TDI until she is out of school or gets a promotion.
 

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Yeah thanks, I have the SCT XCAL3 with 3 custom tunes, hasnt been dyno'd but even with out it the SCT is speaks for itself. Even the intake speaks for itself. Go for the WRSW and divider.

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Nice install OskerB!

Looks like the Weapon R Secret Weapon with their Ram Air attachment and a sealed custom divider between the engine compartment and the air filter/battery area is what is in order for the little '02 2.0L Zetec/5-speed.

Still investigating how many Focus parts will fit... (FORD Racing plug wires, under-drive pulleys, header maybe?)

Exhaust will be Random Technology cat with the highest flow/loudest muffler my girlfriend can stand in full-2.25" or 2.5" pipe.

Who has the best performance/economy module for these cars?
What is making power for you 4-cyl guys without making it an absolute dog off the line?

As you might figure from my screen name, it's my Girlfriend's Escape. We want to perk it up for her as she has to put off getting a new Golf TDI until she is out of school or gets a promotion.
 
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