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I have a 2001 escape with 2.0 engine. It has a rough idle sometimes , i'm thinking it might be the timing belt it's never been changed and my escape has 137,000 miles on it. How hard is it to change this part. Thanks for the help
 

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Hopefully it will be easier than on our Escort. Had to remove the right front wheel, wheelwell liner, and then be jumping up and down reaching in the wheel opening and then up and under the hood. real PITA!
 

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The replacement interval is 120,000 miles, so you are due for one.

You will need to remove the spark plugs, valve cover (cruise and throttle cables also need to be removed), catalytic converter, and an engine mount to do the job. Let me know if you are up to it and I can get started posting service instructions. It is listed as a four-hour job if done by a mechanic.
 

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...which means a 2 day job that includes a case of beer and a preferred list of swear words :bang:
 

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The non-preferred list works just as well.

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The V6 (3.0) has a timing chain right?
 

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Yes, Scott. You can see it when you open your oil cap.
 

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I thought that's what that was lol
 

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doesn anyone know if the timing chain on the v6 has to be replace at a set interval or not if so does anyone know what the interval is thanks.
 

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paul33kane said:
doesn anyone know if the timing chain on the v6 has to be replace at a set interval or not if so does anyone know what the interval is thanks.
It only has to be replaced if it breaks, or it starts making lots of noise. It can technically wear out, at which point the timing could be thrown off, but it's such a PITA job that periodic replacement is not recommended.
 

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Hello J Young;

With respect to our fellow board members, it's not your timing chain.
Even with a 1 tooth "slip" it would put the Escape 15+ degs out of timing. You wouldn't have a rough idle sometimes ... You would be dead in the water. If it did start at all, you would have to pin the accelerator pedal to the floor as it still sputtered to death.

If you give me more details on what has been done to the vehicle and any codes thrown, I can try to narrow down the list of potential gremlins.

Cheers, Kai
 

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So it's not recommended to replace your timing chain before it breaks? I was under the impression the job is more expensive if it breaks and throws off your timing? Looking for clarity here because I've got 152000 miles but tranny and everything is ship shape. Could see getting another 100k out of the rest of the thing.

Have replaced alternator and chassis/suspension in last 3 months and would hate to have the chain break. Anyone have advice/opinion on timing chain replacement? Also estimated dealer cost?

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This goes along the line of "If it ain't broken, don't fix it"
The timing chain is intended to last the life of the vehicle. If it breaks/ slips, then it needs replacing.
There were some notible issues with other manufacturers (read: Hyundai) where if the timing belt broke it would destroy the valves (not enough clearance) but this is not an issue with the Escapes.

Now the serpentine belt is another issue. I believe the manual calls for this to be replaced at 100,000 miles (160,000 kms) on the Escapes.

Cheers, Kai
 

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I'd agree...there are certain things that preventative maintenance should be considered for...but for a timing chain you don't hear too much about it. If it's working fine, keep your damn hands off it! :rockon:
 

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Cool thanks for the clarity guys!!
And yea Kai I did the belt when I changed my alternator in October. Any other notable things I should be looking to maintain? Also ablittle off topic but my power locks stopped working yesterday (always locks whether you hit unlock or lock). I found that if I turn my window lock on the locks work normally. I'm guessing this is a short somewhere in my drivers door panel?
 

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If locking the windows fixes the door locks, you definately have a crossed wire or shorted circuit board connection. You may have gotten water in there through the window seals.

As for additional maintenance, it sounds like you stay pretty much on top of it.
Fluids, belts, hoses, etc. Might be worth cleaning the inside of the throttle body, MAF, IAC, silicone the door seals, etc.

Cheers, Kai
 

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2002 Ford Escape XLT V6.

I'm doing some research for my car and can't seem to come up with an answer. I got my motor mounts replaced at pepboys, and immediately after my escape had a strong vibration when in drive, foot on the brake, at a complete stop. Any other time it has no vibration. So I took it back to pepboys thinking it must be the motor mounts incorrectly installed, but they told me it was my timing chain. They said I hadn't noticed the vibration before fixing my motor mounts because my motor mounts were so shot that the vibration wasn't noticeable. I saw at the top of this message that if my chain was off by a tooth my car wouldn't be functional... they did mention that it "could be off by a tooth". The vibration is strong enough to rattle my dash board and it almost feels like I'm sitting in a massage chair at a stoplight.

They quoted me $1000 for labor alone... since blue book value on it is around $4000, I'm obviously not looking to spend a third of the value on one repair.
 

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my 02 escape is the same way and my motor mounts are fine. I think it is just how the car is. Now, before this, I had a VERY bad vibration and it turned out to be the harmonic balancer (it was in pieces).
 

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The v6 timing chain has a couple of guides that have plastic surfaces that can wear out. I believe at that time, the chain will start to make more noise. The chain also has tensioners that use oil pressure to push a 'pad' out, a step at a time, to compensate for wear and concomitant loosening of the chain. The 'step' allows the tensioner to stay relatively tight when the oil pressure goes away at engine shutdown. When more wear or loosening occurs, the tensioner can walk up to the next step, and rest on it when at ease.
I think the engine with a timing belt is what is called an 'interference' engine, and that means that the valves will run into the tops of the pistons, or vice versa if the belt fails. It is a LOT cheaper to replace the belt before allowing it to fail.

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tomw said:
The v6 timing chain has a couple of guides that have plastic surfaces that can wear out. I believe at that time, the chain will start to make more noise. The chain also has tensioners that use oil pressure to push a 'pad' out, a step at a time, to compensate for wear and concomitant loosening of the chain. The 'step' allows the tensioner to stay relatively tight when the oil pressure goes away at engine shutdown. When more wear or loosening occurs, the tensioner can walk up to the next step, and rest on it when at ease.
I think the engine with a timing belt is what is called an 'interference' engine, and that means that the valves will run into the tops of the pistons, or vice versa if the belt fails. It is a LOT cheaper to replace the belt before allowing it to fail.

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Hello Tom, the 2.3L is an 'interference' engine and uses a timing chain. That bad is there is NO key-way on the crank pulley. So have to go thru a couple extra steps to be sure it is timed.
Don
 
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