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I'm thinking about sound deadening and sealing the back doors of my '05 Escape and installing small subwoofers like these: Elemental Designs e3.6 subwoofers. Cutout diameter is 5.7" and mounting depth is 3.518", the latter being the dimension that has me most concerned. Would I be able to fit these? Would I be able to fit 1/2" or 3/4" thick adapters/rings in there without having to cut apart the factory door panel? I would go the traditional route with subwoofer box in trunk area but I dont want to give up any cargo space. I am going to be running Morel Tempo 6C coaxials in sealed/deadened front doors off an amp. I really want to make this work
 

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Those are really nice woofers, they pack quite a punch considering size, I'm am unsure as to whether or not they will fit in your doors, just want to point out that you will have to completely seal the area around them, to create somewhat of an enclosure, sound deadening is good but you can't just lay it down, you want to seal the sub.
 

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:D I just got this car and didn't know there was a usable space beneath the cargo area that wouldn't be too tight to put my amps. Although I am still worried that they will overheat in that little compartment, anyone have problems?

It also leaves me wondering how I get to the spare... Is it the deal where you take a rod, insert it in a socket under the bumper, and crank it to lower the tire?

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Those are really nice woofers, they pack quite a punch considering size, I'm am unsure as to whether or not they will fit in your doors, just want to point out that you will have to completely seal the area around them, to create somewhat of an enclosure, sound deadening is good but you can't just lay it down, you want to seal the sub.
I realize that the holes in the doors will need to be covered and sealed, I've been hanging out at a lot of car audio forums looking in awe at the installs. Instead of trying to force those eD woofers in the doors I might just throw some old Pioneer 6x8's I have in there and get a subwoofer in a box. I thought I was going to have to mount the amps in the cargo space, which combined with a box would have been too much. I need to have everything hidden and neat- just a box or just an amp being visible is okay but not both. If i can put the amps under the cargo space and leave the area unencumbered by wires and amps, then I could just fold the rear seats down and slide the box forward when I need more room. Decisions decisions.
 

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cool well not sure about the escapes, but my tribute (i can only assume its the same) has the spare inside the back cargo area. You could possibly try to find some space in the back panel to fit a ED sub, for example my truck does not have the top of the line factory store but there is room in the back interior paneling which I figure houses the sub on trucks equipt with one. You might be able to fit one in there... I hid all my wires between my sub box and back seat since the carpet folds up there, then up to the battery through the kick panels, it's hard to see but my + and - run down the box to the front all hidden, now clearly your AWG will be much smaller than mine, that was my old set up but just some ideas...
** edit: sorry the image does not really show what I mean well.. its just my only real shot of it lol
 

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I didnt realize I could do something like this:
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I will have 2 amps in there and a cap, hopefully without any overheating. Will def post pics of the install process when the weather warms up and I get to it.

I don't want to modify any interior panels and I have no fiberglass experience so I wont be doing the side firing install. What made you decide to run such heavy wire? That could support like 2000w+, def overkill unless you have grand future plans.
 

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Ha I don't have cargo spaces like that in my truck, thats cool... and yeah I run SPL, I run 2500 watts RMS clean, so that wire goes from + and - on the battery to the amp, the reason that sub/ amp was so small was because I ran my first show with an old amp, I run much larger now.
 

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Okay now you're gonna have to post some pics or a link. You are running mad power to 1 type-r? Did you upgrade the alternator and battery and all that? Sound deadening?
 

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Ha ok, well my truck is back home sleeping in the garage for the winter due to the fact that I am at school till may-ish.... But no that set up in the pic and sig was early last season, since then I got rid of the bandpass box, and ordered another Type R, and I'm running a new amp (still need to install before the season starts), I just have to finish the install, and the shop I run with built me a dual 12" ported box for the R's but being at school has certainly slowed my progress...My charging system is fine, I run stock everything so far but the wire and battery ground is perfect, I MIGHT upgrade the alt this year but I'll see that once I get the truck on a mic to see some new numbers. I have some pics on the "show what you got" section and around the forums...

Didn't mean to thread jack haha,

but good luck with your set up... I don't think you will have an over heating problem, that cargo space is perfect for a stealth install.
 

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haha well I just abandoned my idea of stealth cause I saw a good deal on a 13Ov.2 over on the ed forum and jumped on it. Ill be running the amps in that little compartment and a 13Ov.2 prob in a vented eD box. Ill just take it out and put it in the house or fold the seats down and slide it up toward the front when I need extra space.
 

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haha well I just abandoned my idea of stealth cause I saw a good deal on a 13Ov.2 over on the ed forum and jumped on it. Ill be running the amps in that little compartment and a 13Ov.2 prob in a vented eD box. Ill just take it out and put it in the house or fold the seats down and slide it up toward the front when I need extra space.
i used to do that with my custom built legacy setup in my old blazer i had. (before i had kids lol). the only problem was i didnt want to have to un-plug it, so i had the extra wire coiled up between the box and seat. and after being in a car accident, and seeing what happens to the crap in the cargo compartment. well when my kids start modding, i will be helping them to hard mount/secure their stereo equipment so that even in a roll over, it will stay in its spot.!!! a 50lbs speakerbox will easily destroy your day it it comes up and hits you in the head. i got lucky and mine went out the back window.
 

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Try something like this:

Infinity:

http://www.infinitysystems.com/car/prod ... Region=USA

Or this:

MTX:

http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/products/en ... erform.cfm

Or this:

PowerAcoustik:

http://www.poweracoustik.com/pa2006/pro ... of_AWB.htm

Or this:

SAS Bazooka:

http://www.sasbazooka.com/products/mobi ... d-Tube-P40

I've had good success with the Infinty in my 2005 Mustang, VERY good success with Bazooka tubes in my previous vehicles, and I know that MTX makes a thunderform setup for 04 and older Escapes/Tribby's. I am in favour of self-contained subwoofers now, as I'm tired of big boxes and big subs with big amps making the rear end of my vehicle useless. I know that the Bazooka with the big amp would be pretty damn loud (I've had dual 8" Tubes in previous installs, and people thought I had a pair of 12" subs in my car), and the Infinity plays just as loud as a single 10" sub in a small box if you have it setup properly.

Let us know what you plan to do, and if you want separates, then get some Digital Class amps to stow under your floor in the back of your truck to cut down on heat and weight, and get some efficient subs in an enclosure with separate chambers, and I'd stick with sealed enclosures, as they seem to sound best (to me anyways) in SUV's.

L8tz

http://www.sasbazooka.com/products/mobi ... d-Tube-P40
 
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