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Moon Roof Broken Piece

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#1 ·
Hi everyone,

I have a 2008 Limited Escape, and a couple years back the moon roof stopped opening properly.

On surface level what happens when I push the button is the venting tilt works okay, but when the glass starts to pull back for full retraction, it stops and a repetitive fast clicking sound happens. It appears to be stuck.

I removed the glass to take a look inside. The motor is working fine and the pieces that are supposed to be moving the glass back and forth are moving along their sliders properly. The real problem is obviously identifiable. There is a piece of plastic that has fractured that attaches the glass moon roof itself to the sliders. This means, when the glass is attached, only one side of the glass is being pulled back and the other side is becoming dead weight- hence the jamming effect and the clicking from the motor. I want to emphasize that the motor does not click and does not have any issue until I try to reattach the glass where the immobile fractured plastic piece causes the jam.

I took it to my trusted general mechanic shop and they told me that moon roofs are really a dealer specific job and that Ford would probably be better option to help me out. So, I took it in to my local Ford dealer and it was a zoo. I got very little communication time with them and they didn't really listen when I told them what I found. After a day of having my car they said the motor was fried and need a full replacement with a bill of about $4k. Obviously, I wasn't going to pay that because the car is only worth $5k at best and they made no mention of the broken part I had found myself.

Anyway, I continued to try to self diagnose the problem and order the part myself, but after ordering the wrong part and admitting that I'd have no idea what I'd do with the right part if I got it... I've just decided to live with a non functioning moon roof. Well the time has come for me to sell this Escape, and I'm worried that the value of the resale is going to be hurt by the non functioning moon roof. I feel pretty confident that this is a simple fix. I just need to find the part and hope that my general mechanic will be able to install it when I get it.

I'm just reaching out to this community to see if this sounds familiar to anyone. Has anyone had this issue, heard of this issue, or have any idea what the part is I'm looking for. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I can easily remove the glass again and take a video if need be. Thanks in advance!
 
#4 ·
Not an uncommon problem. My old 07 Mariner did that same thing.

I finally fixed it by buying a set of replacement aluminum parts and installed those instead of the plastic. The kit wasn't cheap ($135) but it was a lot less expensive that replacing the whole frigging moonroof assembly, the only way you can fix it from Ford.

Otherwise, junkyard parts.

Bought the kit from http://www.tgautomotive.com/Ford_Escape ... p/ilas.htm
 
#5 ·
Ford is not entirely incorrect about a high bill ($4k though is high, I think our quote was $2,600). The problem is these sunroofs are not really serviceable and to do any work on them requires access to the entire frame which means, removing the headliner. At that point, it's usually better in the long run to just replace the whole contraption. You can't just replace the track assembly or the gears. Motor yes but again, for the amount of work it takes to even reach it, you may as well replace the entire contraption.

Junk yard as mentioned is probably best. If you are lucky, then the one part that was pointed out in the link above might work for you. TYpically though, if your sunroof is already messed up, it's beyond repair with just these simple items. I would consider those more of a preventative thing.

As reference, when we owned our 2006 Escape since new, here in Arizona, it had two sunroofs replaced under warranty and one that I replaced outside of warranty. When it broke a 4th time, we said forget it. We closed it and removed the fuse. Sold it like that in early 2019 to a second owner (daughter's friend) who continued to drive it without a functional sunroof until they totaled it in late 2020.
 
#6 ·
If it a broken mount, the mounts listed by project SHO mentioned might be the ticket.
Looks like the sunroof is serviced as an assembly.
The actual carriers are mounted to the cables, and are a bear to timed if ever.
That's why they don't break them out.
Jaguar used to service lower level components, and it was a sh*t show to ever get those right.

https://www.oemfordpart.com/v-2010-ford-escape--limited--3-0l-v6-flex/body--sunroof
 
#7 ·
When my sis purchased a new Probe, it did not have a sunroof, and she wanted one. They priced and sold the car as if it was so equipped, and had a local firm install a sunroof. It appeared to be the same one as was factory installed.
You may be able to find a local shop that does sunroof installs that has experience working on them, and could have some ingenious method of repair.
I do not know, and really don't want to learn about late model(???) sunroofs. I had one in a 1969 Cougar that was made in Germany, factory installed, and was a PITA, except when it worked. Found parts in a boneyard, and was able to R&R the drive cables and links, get it all timed, and back together without removing the headliner. I did not have fun.
tom
 
#8 ·
ProjectSHO89 said:
Not an uncommon problem. My old 07 Mariner did that same thing.

I finally fixed it by buying a set of replacement aluminum parts and installed those instead of the plastic. The kit wasn't cheap ($135) but it was a lot less expensive that replacing the whole frigging moonroof assembly, the only way you can fix it from Ford.

Otherwise, junkyard parts.

Bought the kit from http://www.tgautomotive.com/Ford_Escape ... p/ilas.htm
Thanks so much to all of you for the suggestions, and apologies it's been so long since I've reposted.

This piece is exactly what I saw broken on my moon roof. I'm going to remove the glass again, take pictures and upload them, and give ya'll an update.

I think ordering this part will likely be my course of action. Do you remember how difficult the install was for this part?

Thanks again for the great replies!
 
#9 ·
Do you remember how difficult the install was for this part?
Since it involved dropping the headliner first (lots of trim had to be removed) before dropping the whole sunroof module, it took the better part of a Saturday.

Wasn't hard, just tedious for the most part. Having a helper would have simplified some of the more awkward parts like handling the headliner and the module. Getting everything adjusted and re-synchronized took a few tries but I eventually got it.
 
#10 ·
Can you post the initialization procedure you used to reset ops once you re-installed everything? I used the same kit to repair our 2008 Mariner and the removal, clean up, and re-installation all while tedious, went well... I managed to get both sides in synch without much fuss, but reprogramming the timing module is proving to be a bear.... I was able to get it to initialize, but the location logic is off by a few inches (it thinks it's in the parked closed position when the glass is actually about 3 inches slid open.)
 
#11 ·
SECTION 501-17: Roof Opening Panel
2007 Escape/Mariner/Escape Hybrid/Mariner Hybrid Workshop Manual​
GENERAL PROCEDURES
Procedure revision date: 08/23/2007​

Motor Synchronization Printable View (79 KB)

NOTE:
A new roof opening panel motor is already synchronized to the CLOSED roof opening panel glass position. If the roof opening panel motor has been operated while removed from the roof opening panel assembly, it will be necessary to carry out the following procedure to synchronize the roof opening panel motor to the CLOSED glass position.
  1. Position the roof opening panel glass to the CLOSED position.
  2. With the motor removed from the roof opening panel assembly, connect the roof opening panel motor and control switch electrical connectors.
  3. Turn the key to the ON position.
  4. Press and hold the control switch in the close direction until the motor comes to a complete stop and then release the control switch.
  5. Press and hold the control switch in the open direction until the motor comes to a complete stop and then release the control switch. During this step, the gear should move 8 to 12 revolutions before coming to a stop.
  6. Press and hold the control switch in the close direction until the motor comes to a complete stop and then release the control switch.
  7. Install the roof opening panel motor. For additional information, refer to Roof Opening Panel Motor in this section.